“Conversations on racism should never be about winning.” Ijeoma Oluo, So You Want to Talk About Race.Learn from Pastor Rick Benjamin on how it can be hard to talk about race.e. Watch, read, or listen as Pastor Rick Benjamin shares how in can be hard to talk about race. Use this DISCUSSION GUIDE to share with friends, family, neighbors about the difficulty of talking about race. Watch one or more of the short videos and reflections from the New York Times on racial identity in America. You will need a free account to watch.